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There was a two hour heated debate at the home of the Satmar Rebbe of Kiryas Yoel, on the topic of vaccinations. R’ Elya Ber Wachtfogel was in attendance as well. R’ Elya Ber is reportedly an Anti-vaxxer.
GreaterLakewood is working on verifying some of the specifics below.
The anti-vaxxers brought a physician from Oklohoma, who made four points.
- vaccinations are dangerous,
- It is against the Torah (I don’t think they brought a DR for that)
- Doctors are bought by the pharmaceutical companies
- The health department is wrong
The pro-vaxxers had Dr Wertzberger & another doctor (some Hatzolah member were there as well).
When the Oklahoma physician said the Torah doesn’t allow it, the Rebbe said ‘leave the Torah out’ just stick to medical facts. After several questions, they realized this ‘top doctor from Oklahoma’ never dealt with Kids. He was not a pediatrician.
Dr. Wertzberger said he was a pediatrician and has been seeing children for 30+ years and vaccinated over 10,000 children. He said of course vaccinations are a good thing etc. and he has the stats from his own patients to show it.
The ‘top doctor from Oklahoma’ said that doctors are all bought out by the pharmaceutical companies. To which Dr Wertzberger replied ‘ how much did you get paid to come here!?
During the exchange, some anti-vaxxers in the room started screaming that kids die from vaccines. The Rebbe said people died from heart surgery should we not do heart surgery? People died from the needle at the dentist, should we not go to the dentist anymore? The Rebbe said the bottom line is we will not force you to vaccinate but don’t put us in danger. The Anti-vaxxers should open their own schools, shuls, camps & playgrounds.
The Anti-vaxxers should open their own schools, shuls, camps & playgrounds.Satmar Rebbe