WIN FOR JEWRY: LAST MINUTE ‘DEAL’ TO REMOVE RELIGIOUS EXEMPTIONS – FAILS

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Monday Update: New Jersey lawmakers postponed an expected vote on a bill to eliminate most religious exemptions for vaccines for schoolchildren saying they lacked the votes ABC reported.

It appears State Senate President Stephen Sweeney was short one vote.

To restart this bill, they would need to start all over again with hearings, votes and all the drama that surrounds it.

Poskim and Gedolim were against the bill, even though they were pro vaccines – read the detailed explanation, analysis & more below.

Previously reported on GL:

Three weeks after hundreds of protesters came to Trenton to protest a bill aimed to remove the religious exemption on vaccinations

The New Jersey Senate committees voted already last month to advance a bill that would remove the religious exemption on vaccines. The bill comes following a measles outbreak in Orthodox Jewish areas. Fact is most Orthodox Jews vaccinate. In Lakewood, estimates have it at over 95% of the population. Additionally, most leading Rabbinic leaders require vaccinations however a few oppose – most notably Harav Malkiel Kotler and Harav Elya Ber Wachtfogel.

Regardless, Pro Vaccination Rabbanim are against this bill noting once we allow the Government to remove religious exemptions, we never know where it can end. (What will stop them from halting security funding for schools or institutions with separate seating etc…)

Harav Shmuel Meir Katz, of BMG’s senior poskim, spent his day in Trenton at the hearing in opposition to the bill.

Dr. Rich Roberts came in in support of the bill – against the ruling of leading Gedolim and the Agudah – whose official policy is extremely pro-vaccination.

Avi Schnall of the Agudah’s NJ branch strongly opposed the bill and when New York was contemplating removing the religious exemption, the Agudah, whose official policy is to vaccinate, released a letter against the bill.

The NJ Assembly passed the bill eliminating the religious exemption from vaccines. However, the State Senate was short a vote or two forcing them to postpone the vote. The bill was postponed till Jan 9th.

Now it appears the bill has enough votes to pass – with one key change.


The change will allow private schools and daycare centers the right to accept children who aren’t vaccinated, as long as they keep a count of how many kids are unvaccinated.

GL spoke with an activist who said “this really makes no sense” explaining, “what’s the purpose of this bill if people can anyways choose not to vaccinate” concluding perhaps it’s a two-step plan, “First they find out a record of who is not vaccinated and then a couple of years later they sent letters to the schools and pass another bill to exclude those kids.”

State Senate President Stephen Sweeney was determined to get this bill passed. “We’re either going to get it done now or we’re going to get it done in the next session, but by all means this is getting done,” Sweeney told NorthJersey.com. “It’s the right health care policy and it’s based on science, unlike what [the protesters are] chanting and saying. They have a right to their opinion.”

The discussion of allowing non-vaccinated children into school is a similar but different topic which we will not address in this article.

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  1. I would like to suggest something to everyone regarding the vaccination brouhaha.

    There are many undercover plans in the world, done far from the eyes of all of us and the media. These people cause their mischief in private, yet it affects all of us. They do not have our welfare in mind, yet they can talk platitudes and calming language. Our health is a problem for them, and they want to affect it and change it. They need us weak and sick, they do not want us healthy and confident.

    I am talking of course about the Russian and Chinese governments. They have a long-term view of things, they can decide things for down the road too. If they have a weak generation growing up, they can ensure that they will not have to face a strong America in the future.

    That is why they are supporting this anti vaccination movement. They hide behind various NGOs and religious organizations, and most of their constituency is not aware of it. But they are desperate for a weakened generation to grow up in America. That is why they publicize half-truths and outright lies. They want to have people question the medical research and decide ‘shev veal taaseh’. Then they will be able to emasculate America and stop it being a world power.

    Don’t let the Russian propaganda convince you! They are hiding their origins, but the various sites that are linked to are all secretly paid for by the Russians and the CHinese.

  2. How will this weaken religious freedom? If anything, it was the Supreme Court weakened the right in the Peyote case, Employment Division v. Smith (1990), that allowed the state to not exempt Native Americans for using a controlled substance in their religious rites.

    Congress responded with the Religious Freedom Restoration Act but the Court ruled that unconstitutional (rightly) in City of Boerne v. Flores (1997) because it usurped federalism by compelling a standard upon the states beyond the contours of the First Amendment (according to the Court), and Congress’s ability to compel the states through section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment is limited to enforcing the Constitution.

    As for vaccinations, if indeed someone sincerely holds that it violates their religious beliefs, not just political or medical beliefs, the Mormans allowed and endorsed polygamy as part of their religion. In Reynolds v. United States (1879) the Supreme Court said, “To permit this would be to make the professed doctrines of religious belief superior to the law of the land, and in effect to permit every citizen to become a law unto himself. Government could exist only in name under such circumstances….”

    Freedom to believe is absolute. Freedom to practice involves a balancing test depending on the case.

    Is the belief religious and is it sincere? What is the government interest? Is it targeting religious practice? Is it in the least restrictive way?

    The Supreme Court already ruled on vaccinations in Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905). “The liberty secured by the Constitution of the United States does not import an absolute right in each person to be at all times, and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint, nor is it an element in such liberty that one person, or a minority of persons residing in any community and enjoying the benefits of its local government, should have power to dominate the majority when supported in their action by the authority of the State.”

  3. Mr. Lang, just curious, do you think it’s legal for the state to decide that its against their ethics to keep someone alive on the respirator? Or Does a religious person get to keep himself alive due to the dictates of his religion?

    And now with global warming, can the state enforce a 2 child max – for the better of us all, or can religious people follow the dictates or customs of their religion?

    Where exactly do you plan to draw your line. You might as well start thinking now because these questions are coming upon us hard and fast.

    • You do not mention religion issues. I don’t know how any of this is more of a religious issue than a substantive due process issue. Staying alive and having children is even more than a constitutional right, but it goes back to the social contract of Hobbs and Locke which is the foundation of the English and American polity. Locke of course would consider it natural law.

      But I’ll answer your two questions with Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 390, 399 (1923).

      While this Court has not attempted to define with exactness the liberty thus guaranteed, the term has received much consideration and some of the included things have been definitely stated. Without doubt, it denotes not merely freedom from bodily restraint but also the right of the individual to contract, to engage in any of the common occupations of life, to acquire useful knowledge, to marry, establish a home and bring up children, to worship G-d according to the dictates of his own conscience, and generally to enjoy those privileges long recognized at common law as essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men.

      Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 390, 399 (1923)

  4. You will probably not post my comment seeing that the two comments approved above are totally pro-vaccine. The first one is completely ludicrous. There is no Russian or Chinese influence controlling the “antivaccine” debate. In fact, the debate is winning on the science. People are questioning and doing their own investigations into the available research and coming to their own conclusions instead of just blindly following their doctors orders. The WHO’s top scientists are admitting they don’t have the safety studies to answer people’s questions about vaccine deaths. See https://youtu.be/82KJGSLT2e4 if you want to find out who is lying to you and for the true science see http://www.icandecide.org

  5. BSD
    Truth-seekers look beyond the surface for authenticity. The rabbanim who are supposedly “pro-vax” but refuse to have an open conversation on the particulars without blind trusting their financial supporters – do not realize that they are colluders, not different than the Judenrats of all our history. They are in this conscience-blocked state for 1 crystal clear Divine reason – so that the MOTHERS should wake up and say “ein lanu al me l’hee’sha’ein ella al Avinu shebaShamayim”!!

    Bitachon is reserved ONLY for Hashem! We should NEVER put our blind trust in ANY human being! No rabbi will take responsibility for the inevitable harm vaccines are designed to cause – so they are way overstepping their boundaries by telling people to vaccinate. Their integrity must be questioned. The simple & ignored elephant in the room are the nonvaccinated children of G-d fearing responsible parents. If these “pro-vax” rabbis were really courageously seeking truth – that WOULD be their first investigation….go be detectives as Chazal guide us…yesurim baim l’adam yifashfesh b’maasav” – there’s not a long enough list yet of yesurim in Klal Yisrael???? Where’s your “pishpush”???? Zero, nada, nil!!! I asked a psychiatrist who is a columnist in Mishpacha who spoke in Yerushalayim about removing the stigma of the mentally challenged among us (meaning those prescribed life long psychotropics) – if he could share his research on the root causes of these issues. He was visibly shaken by that term “root cause”…he responded with a nonsensical & irrelevant comment bashing homeopathy and quickly excused himself….that seems to be the main question few doctor-supported “rabbanim” care to ask – what are the possible root causes of the rip roaring & heart wrenching tzaros among ONLY the vaccinated families among us???

    Those who asked sincerely – found the exact source – the sheker vaccine agenda that has its demonic roots in the force of tumah and achzariyus.

    Like “Edom” – superficially, vaccines are dressed to be for the “good of the public” though they admit that there’ll be sacrifices made…sounds like the builders of the Tower of Bavel….yes! The vaccine promoters are ALSO fighting Hashem. Hashem lovingly wants us humanity to be fruitful and multiply in numbers and in individual infinite greatness.

    We are a threat to those vying to be gods themselves and are fueled well by the sitrah acharah. Let’s CHOOSE to be aligned with HKBH – our Creator…this is our challenge and we already won! Now it’s time to thank Hashem & beseech is only Him for healing, staying away from the church of corrupt medical science, their priests, and their church-hospitals! “Asher Yatzar es haadam b’ hachmah”. We are created with healing wisdom in every single cell of our being – we must learn how to tap into it. Check out ElevationProject.com
    Or listen to R’ Doniel Katz
    & to Orit Esther Riter

    If you trust Hashem and have an inkling of the depth & intricacies of human biology & physiology- why would ANYONE be stupid enough to allow mysterious substances to be injected into their loved ones??? Because of all the same reasons that people over the ages engaged in idol worship – FEARS = fabricated events & entities appearing really silly – it’s the effects of propaganda. If our chinuch system would be designed to empower our generation and create leaders – the first courses would have been on the “science of propaganda” so we could learn how to smell a rat and not be so dangerously naive!

  6. Go New Jersey!!
    This is an awesome win for Americans! No one should be forced to inject dangerous, cancerous and untested material into their children’s bodies. We all saw the leaked admissions at the WHO convention last month in Geneva discussing how the doctors have become skeptical about vaccines and that they have no answers to those that ask questions. They also admit to no safety studies and no safety monitoring!! (Please watch it yourself at The highwire; WHO is lying to you )
    For those of you that wish to inject your children with questionable material that alters their immune system, please continue to do so! No one is forcing you to stop.

  7. I am glad that yesterday America showed a true face of democracy. Thank God for that. People have the right to do with their bodies whatever they please, their bodies is their choice.

  8. We need to see these bills not as singular bills but as a concerted effort for government overreach. The bills being passed in NJ are a clear sign that parents and adults are losing their choices to their bodies whether it’s religious or philosophical.

    We’re simply asking for more science and more education. You can’t have the president of the senate say that there are no longer aborted fetal cells in vaccines. The science still requires the use of these cells lines and the information is public in the vaccine insert itself. You can look at the insert yourself by going to a drug store and asking for it or simply look at the mfg’s website.

    Let’s get educated, let’s understand the science, let’s educate our Gedolim with the right information and not with fear mongering. Judaism does have tennents and Halachas on how to deal with doctors for medicine and other medical decisions. We can’t separate vaccines out and say they are not medicine or medical.

  9. This is not a question of halacha.

    The government and industry lie regularly about everything.

    Govt agencies exist to protect the industries that the unkowing public believes they are to police.

    Some of the lies:

    Tobacco
    Thalidomide
    Saccharine
    Every other synthetic sweetener
    Electronic cigarettes
    Sugar
    Eggs
    Saturated fat
    Hydrogenated fats
    Aspirin
    Acetaminophen
    Every other synthetic NSAID
    Viox (incidentally merck, in internal documents, call the HPV “vaccine”, “help pay for viox” after they lost the class action suit brought by Robert Kennedy jr.)

    DDT
    Thimerosal
    Sodium benzoate
    Etc.
    Etc.
    Etc.

    Why would you trust these serial liars about injections, that they are attempting to force on everyone?

    Once it’s injected, there’s no way to reverse it.

    There’s an overwhelming propaganda machine working to scare people into vaccination.

    Think!

    Why?

    More than half of amerika’s children are chronically ill right now!

    Why?

    What’s changed since 50 years ago?

    Use the intelligence Hashem gave you.

    Don’t be a victim of government/ industry propaganda.

  10. To A Mother in Israel,

    If anything should disprove your conspiracy theories it would be yesterday’s protest. 10,000 real American human beings rallied against this tyrannical bill that would put our religious freedoms in jeopardy. We’re not Russian, we’re not Chinese and we are not bots!! This movement is growing because the emes always prevails. A lie can only stand so long before it come crumbling down. And as we saw from the leaked footage of the World Health Organizatio where their scientists admit that the science of vaccine safety has not been done!

  11. Mother of Isreal,
    The remark that there are people that want a sick generation of Americans is so true!
    There are people that depend on your illness to make income. There are companies and industries that makes lots of money from cancer, diabetes, Crohn’s, colitis, seizures, and more These things are some of the things that vaccines may cause as indicated on the inserts. Why would you trust an industry that has no income from healthy children? They are dependent on their customers. Taking vaccines will inevitably make you or your child into a forced customer of the future.
    May all of Klal Yisroel be healthy! And may the ENTIRE truth be revealed to prevent eve one more Yiddishe victim!

  12. If Dr. Roberts weren’t very wealthy. If Dr. Roberts wouldn’t sponsor a free chol hamoed trip for your kids. How would you report the fact that he’s openly advocating against the opinion of our rabbonim & askonim? This kind of self askonus with no regard to our rabbonim is more dangerous than any vaccine is.

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